A nice pre-Spring day and I got the boat out of the barn to fit the jib I just finished sewing. The jib is made from a piece of scrap from an old sail. The halyard goes thru a bee hole at the top of the mast. The luff of the sail is roped, with eyes spliced at the head and tack. The clue also has an eye sewn into it.
This is also the new, taller, mast. Today I made the pad eyes that I will use for sheet leads for the jib. FUN!
A Skiff Wind blows over the water-An account of my winter project to build my first wooden boat, a 13' plywood QT Skiff designed by Jim Michalak. Now that that boat has been launched and is in use, this blog will now also document all of my other boat building and general "MESSING ABOUT IN BOATS"
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Wednesday, March 8, 2017
Wednesday, November 2, 2016
First November sail this year
On the second day of November with temperatures in the mid sixties, we get a lovely sail. The wind was lighter than it seemed, or something was different. Couldn't get to windward very well with the light air in such messy, sloppy water. I did power sail though, rowing with the rig drawing and that worked really well.
I sailed into a marina to see a fellow sailor before he leaves for warmer latitudes for the winter. His boat looked great, and ready to go south. While leaving the marina I was startled by what had to be a big fish, but at first thought it might be some kind of seal or something like. The muddy brown color made me think it was a fish, but it had some girth to it when it surfaced, kind of like a seal does. Who knows what lurks in that muddy river.
More fish were jumping during the rest of the sail too.
I had to row up the marsh to get back to the launch site and was very pleased to be reminded of how easily this boat rows. I must remember to make rowing a priority on the next boat.
I sailed into a marina to see a fellow sailor before he leaves for warmer latitudes for the winter. His boat looked great, and ready to go south. While leaving the marina I was startled by what had to be a big fish, but at first thought it might be some kind of seal or something like. The muddy brown color made me think it was a fish, but it had some girth to it when it surfaced, kind of like a seal does. Who knows what lurks in that muddy river.
More fish were jumping during the rest of the sail too.
I had to row up the marsh to get back to the launch site and was very pleased to be reminded of how easily this boat rows. I must remember to make rowing a priority on the next boat.
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| sailed into a marina and right up to a cleat in a slip while I got out and talked with a friend. |
Saturday, October 29, 2016
Rewind----64'f good SSW winds
The day before yesterday was snow, sleet, rain and today I'm overdressed for a nice sail in the afternoon. 64'f and a strong breeze from the south and west, with some gusts that send us planing when we are running down wind, well almost.
Today I launched from a different place. The Haverstraw Bay park's ramp is open year round, free for kayaks, canoes and row boats, and the skiff qualifies. It's a really easy place to launch from and really the only place that I can launch for free, no matter the state of the tide.
Today was also the first time using the new, longer push-pull tiller. It works great! Very comfortable to use from midships facing forward. Mission accomplished.
We had some "rollers" today, large long waves, about 3-4 from trough to top. It's so much fun in a boat that sits so low in the water.
We sailed from the dock on departure and back up to the dock on the return. Wasn't sure we'd make it with out using the oars, but we did. The oar blades stayed dry today, but the handles got a little bit damp when a wave came up over the windward side and into the boat, and on me. The water is cool but the day was so warm that it just seemed fun. With the tiller I am better able to steer the boat over the short chop and eliminate a good bit of the pounding that the flat hull might do otherwise.
Today while sailing I remembered something I had just read about the hard chined sharpie hull. In shallow water the hard chine can dig in and work as a bit of a keel and allow for a bit of sailing to windward with the board up. I think that for this kind of sailing that I want to do this makes up a lot for the tendency for the flat bottom to pound.
when I came back to the dock a guy was watching me land and haul out the boat. He eventually came up and asked if WHISP was a homemade boat. He said it looked it. I don't know if that is meant to be a criticism but I don't take it to be because as I was sailing today I sailed close to a 30 something foot long boat with the big dark sails, mylar or carbon fiber, or something. We were sailing in the same water. I'm sure I was having just as much fun as they were on that big boat but I'd wager that the sails on that boat alone cost more than all of the boats I own, or ever have, and yet there they were sailing in the same water using the same wind, but my home built boat cost less than the sailing jacket any one of the crew was wearing! In my mind, I win.
Today was a bonus day for my micro season this 2016, but I think I've sailed more days than many who had their boats in the water since early Spring. Again, I win.
I look forward to next months anomaly day and hope that the wind and tide and fortune will let me back out on the water.
Today I launched from a different place. The Haverstraw Bay park's ramp is open year round, free for kayaks, canoes and row boats, and the skiff qualifies. It's a really easy place to launch from and really the only place that I can launch for free, no matter the state of the tide.
Today was also the first time using the new, longer push-pull tiller. It works great! Very comfortable to use from midships facing forward. Mission accomplished.
We had some "rollers" today, large long waves, about 3-4 from trough to top. It's so much fun in a boat that sits so low in the water.
We sailed from the dock on departure and back up to the dock on the return. Wasn't sure we'd make it with out using the oars, but we did. The oar blades stayed dry today, but the handles got a little bit damp when a wave came up over the windward side and into the boat, and on me. The water is cool but the day was so warm that it just seemed fun. With the tiller I am better able to steer the boat over the short chop and eliminate a good bit of the pounding that the flat hull might do otherwise.
Today while sailing I remembered something I had just read about the hard chined sharpie hull. In shallow water the hard chine can dig in and work as a bit of a keel and allow for a bit of sailing to windward with the board up. I think that for this kind of sailing that I want to do this makes up a lot for the tendency for the flat bottom to pound.
when I came back to the dock a guy was watching me land and haul out the boat. He eventually came up and asked if WHISP was a homemade boat. He said it looked it. I don't know if that is meant to be a criticism but I don't take it to be because as I was sailing today I sailed close to a 30 something foot long boat with the big dark sails, mylar or carbon fiber, or something. We were sailing in the same water. I'm sure I was having just as much fun as they were on that big boat but I'd wager that the sails on that boat alone cost more than all of the boats I own, or ever have, and yet there they were sailing in the same water using the same wind, but my home built boat cost less than the sailing jacket any one of the crew was wearing! In my mind, I win.
Today was a bonus day for my micro season this 2016, but I think I've sailed more days than many who had their boats in the water since early Spring. Again, I win.
I look forward to next months anomaly day and hope that the wind and tide and fortune will let me back out on the water.
Wednesday, October 19, 2016
Micro Season Apex!! 80'f in October !!!
Hi temp today 81'f!!!!!!! No shoes, no socks, no shirt sailing. Strong north wind, Force 4 with higher gusts. Today shipped the rudder and steering stick. It's good to know that it retains it's bite even when healed over, which happened a bit and to a greater degree today as I tried to find out how well the little skiff could stand up the wind.
At times the wind died down to an easy breeze, and that made for amazing lazy sailing while laid out on the cockpit sole soaking up the heat of the sun, like charging my batteries before the cold sets in.
At the auto bridge I dropped the mast and rowed under it and into the marsh. I still had the rudder in place and with the wind behind me I decided to stand up and sail down wind using my body as the sail. It worked! Wonderfully actually. After sitting down all afternoon standing was nice. The steering stick (a push pull affair) worked as if it was meant for standing and steering. I was initially concerned about stability, the boats, mine, but it turned out to be just fine. The floors don't extend to the edges of the boat so standing on them keeps weight inboard where it should be. I figure that sailing this way would make reefing very easy all you have to do is sit down!
I don't know why but I find it hard to say it but I think it may be true that I am become a "small boat sailor". I have been so certain that I am not, but my actions and delight in this boat would seem to prove otherwise.
Well this was my 2 days of sailing this week and they were pretty great. I am learning more and more about this boat each time we go out. It is great fun to be the smallest boat out on such blustery days and to be doing just fine, sailing amongst the the bigger boats with crews on them, giving way, and taking my rightful way.
I have found that the little bay here, that I hardly even referred to as a bay previously, has now become my own playground with plenty of water for a boat like this and plenty of area for my kind of sailing. I have a beautiful prominence to the north, with rock cliffs shooting up from the water and a lovely lighthouse atop, marinas all to the west. To the east, across the river is a beautiful shore that seems like it is far away and I need not venture that far on most outings. Sailing out as far east as the commercial channel gives me a great view to the south, down river, tall rock cliffs on the western shore and a lovely beach and a point to the south east. I also know that looking south, I feel the presence of the Atlantic, just 40 miles away. All I have to do is point that way and sail. I don't need to, and don't even want to right now, but knowing that it's that easy makes it all a bit more amazing.
If that happened to be my last real outing for the season, then I've done alright, especially considering I didn't start my season until late September. The handy ease of this boat means that my season never really ends, I just have to be ready for those nice days each month of the year that seem to materialize just to keep me sane and on the water. I think I will invest in a drysuit for the colder season sailing. I've been in the cold water once before and have no real desire to experience that again, although, it wasn't something I regret having gone thru, at least now I know what it's like, Hypothermia, and accepting once death in the present moment. After that, everything seems bonus!
At times the wind died down to an easy breeze, and that made for amazing lazy sailing while laid out on the cockpit sole soaking up the heat of the sun, like charging my batteries before the cold sets in.
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| Looking southwest into sunny sky and cloud and shimmering water |
I don't know why but I find it hard to say it but I think it may be true that I am become a "small boat sailor". I have been so certain that I am not, but my actions and delight in this boat would seem to prove otherwise.
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| back on the shore, a flat bottomed skiff is so easy to beach and step off dry footed. |
I have found that the little bay here, that I hardly even referred to as a bay previously, has now become my own playground with plenty of water for a boat like this and plenty of area for my kind of sailing. I have a beautiful prominence to the north, with rock cliffs shooting up from the water and a lovely lighthouse atop, marinas all to the west. To the east, across the river is a beautiful shore that seems like it is far away and I need not venture that far on most outings. Sailing out as far east as the commercial channel gives me a great view to the south, down river, tall rock cliffs on the western shore and a lovely beach and a point to the south east. I also know that looking south, I feel the presence of the Atlantic, just 40 miles away. All I have to do is point that way and sail. I don't need to, and don't even want to right now, but knowing that it's that easy makes it all a bit more amazing.
If that happened to be my last real outing for the season, then I've done alright, especially considering I didn't start my season until late September. The handy ease of this boat means that my season never really ends, I just have to be ready for those nice days each month of the year that seem to materialize just to keep me sane and on the water. I think I will invest in a drysuit for the colder season sailing. I've been in the cold water once before and have no real desire to experience that again, although, it wasn't something I regret having gone thru, at least now I know what it's like, Hypothermia, and accepting once death in the present moment. After that, everything seems bonus!
Tuesday, October 18, 2016
Huck Finn-ing it
Launched, rowed under a railroad bridge, sailed a half a mile, then dropped the mast and sailed under an auto bridge, then rowed under the lee of the land, raise the mast and sail and we were off!
On the return the marsh seemed like a good place to stall off going home, have a snack, and a short nap. The little folding grapnel anchor kept us in place just fine.
Wednesday, October 12, 2016
Bigger water and the Clearwater
A long fetch coming straight up the river, out of the south, force 3 to force 4
close hauled, the flat bottomed hull wants to pound when we drop off the wave tops and land in the troughs
I try to steer us to softer landings We tack and come off the wind sailing into the Marina basin
We ghost along UNICORN, the hands on deck wave and say hello
we come back on our course to sail under The CLEARWATER and the crew waves and admires the little red skiff
Back out in the river and we run back up to the next bay, our home, the rolling waves lifting the stern
the main sheet eased out I worried about control off the wind but needn't be. It's a fun ride back home
On the approach to the dock I decide that I'm not ready to be done for the day and veer off and sail up to the light house as the sun gets low in the sky
even in the gusts the little sail seems to pull the boat along but not over press it
It's just the right size for this kind of sailing We sail right up to the dock and I reach out and loop the painter around a cleat. 3or 4 hours of easy, fun, sweet sailing, running, close hauled, beam reach, spray
This boat fits kind of like a kayak fits.
close hauled, the flat bottomed hull wants to pound when we drop off the wave tops and land in the troughs
I try to steer us to softer landings We tack and come off the wind sailing into the Marina basin
We ghost along UNICORN, the hands on deck wave and say hello
we come back on our course to sail under The CLEARWATER and the crew waves and admires the little red skiff
Back out in the river and we run back up to the next bay, our home, the rolling waves lifting the stern
the main sheet eased out I worried about control off the wind but needn't be. It's a fun ride back home
On the approach to the dock I decide that I'm not ready to be done for the day and veer off and sail up to the light house as the sun gets low in the sky
even in the gusts the little sail seems to pull the boat along but not over press it
It's just the right size for this kind of sailing We sail right up to the dock and I reach out and loop the painter around a cleat. 3or 4 hours of easy, fun, sweet sailing, running, close hauled, beam reach, spray
This boat fits kind of like a kayak fits.
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| DDP Clearwater |
Wednesday, October 5, 2016
It's good to be Back
Went out yesterday evening for a nice 3 hour sail. I had meant to test out the rudder on the skiff but realized I had bent one of the gudgeons by dropping the stern of the boat while trying to off load it from the pick up sometime ago. The up side was that I didn't need to worry about how the rudder and steering stick worked, and just enjoyed an evening sail to the light house and back. It was gusty but I think I just about got it right for the amount of sail I have on the rig now. The boat has weather helm, good, but not so much as to loose control. The big gusts are easily spilled by easing the mainsheet, and yet, the boat moves along in a light breeze.
Today the weather was even better and I wanted to fix the rudder rig and test it out. I have been under the belief that steering with the oars works very well and makes for one less bit of gear in the boat to have to control and store and carry, but, I had built this rudder and wanted to try it out. The rudder is made our of cedar (formerly somebodies decking material for their house) and has positive buoyancy. The tiller, or rather, the steering stick is yellow pine and works by pulling fore and aft.
Though it does add a complication to the rig, it does work nicely. I was concerned that the rudder might not have enough wet surface area to provide steerage but at least in moderate winds, it's just fine. The steering stick could be a bit longer, maybe a foot or foot and a half, and I need to replace the toggle that locks the rudder pintles into the gudgeons, I just tied them together today.
Power sailing for this boat is rowing with the sail up, and it works great. The transition from rowing to just sailing is quick and easy, just pull in the oars, don't even need to pull them out of their oarlocks. Steering from the rowing position is easy with the tiller and main sheet easily within reach.
The mainsheet comes from the clue of the sail down to a detachable block on a ring seized to the stern painter on the transom, then is bent around the forward oarlock sockets then to a cleat on the daggerboard, though I don't cleat it off much.
I also saw the sailing vessel UNICORN today, and the skipper was kind enough to invite me aboard to take a look see. She is about 108' LOA with square sails and fore and aft sails. I need to look up what that makes her, windjammer, full rigged ship, clipper??????? Great boat. Enjoyed meeting the Skipper, If this were a month ago, or things were just a bit different, I'd be pleading for a berth to get the ship down to the Chesapeake. It would be what some people call a "BUCKETLIST" item for me, sailing a tall ship.
Waiting out Hurricane Matthew by going on perfect daysails here and knowing that people down south are dying a losing their homes, land, is kind of strange. I guess somewhere in the world something really hard is always happening while something wonderful is also going on.
Today the weather was even better and I wanted to fix the rudder rig and test it out. I have been under the belief that steering with the oars works very well and makes for one less bit of gear in the boat to have to control and store and carry, but, I had built this rudder and wanted to try it out. The rudder is made our of cedar (formerly somebodies decking material for their house) and has positive buoyancy. The tiller, or rather, the steering stick is yellow pine and works by pulling fore and aft.
Though it does add a complication to the rig, it does work nicely. I was concerned that the rudder might not have enough wet surface area to provide steerage but at least in moderate winds, it's just fine. The steering stick could be a bit longer, maybe a foot or foot and a half, and I need to replace the toggle that locks the rudder pintles into the gudgeons, I just tied them together today.
Power sailing for this boat is rowing with the sail up, and it works great. The transition from rowing to just sailing is quick and easy, just pull in the oars, don't even need to pull them out of their oarlocks. Steering from the rowing position is easy with the tiller and main sheet easily within reach.
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| sailing rig ready to go in a matter of minutes, 2 minutes at the most. |
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| Dagger board trunk being built |
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| Dagger board in use. A bungee cord allows for adjusting to any amount of board depth. |
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| An Ocean going canoe catamaran at the local marina. Really amazing and beautiful. |
Waiting out Hurricane Matthew by going on perfect daysails here and knowing that people down south are dying a losing their homes, land, is kind of strange. I guess somewhere in the world something really hard is always happening while something wonderful is also going on.
Wednesday, December 9, 2015
TART?
Last night I took the basic lines measurements of the WEE PUP and then drew a boat plan that was built like my pram. The lines drawing looks good, and not so much different from my TARTLET. The two boats are the same LOA, but the beam of the PUP is a few inches greater, and on the bottom, a lot fuller. I am considering building this hybrid, I'd call it TART, just to reference the first boat. The reason I'd think about building the boat in this style is because it is a nail and glue with a chine log, rather than a stitch and glue as the PUP calls for. This way I can build it in the cold of winter, if it ever gets cold, because the polyurethane glue I use, GORILLA GLUE, can be used in the cooler temps whereas epoxy needs the 60 degree minimum. It is sometimes to keep that room above 60 in the really cold times.
I also really like the direct simple building method. I use both fasteners, screws, and glue to affix the plywood panels to the solid wood chines and frames. This both glues the surfaces and works as a caulking of a sort, since the GORILLA GLUE, foams and expands.
When Winfield Thompson had his first WEE PUP built the boat builder asked "Where would you like you tub delivered?". It is kind of tubby, but the lapstrake sides help to let you know it's a boat. With the version, that I am thinking of, it would just look like a tub. Well what can I say, after all, TARTLET, looks like a coffin, truly. If you were going to build a coffin that is what it would look like.
| TART? |
When Winfield Thompson had his first WEE PUP built the boat builder asked "Where would you like you tub delivered?". It is kind of tubby, but the lapstrake sides help to let you know it's a boat. With the version, that I am thinking of, it would just look like a tub. Well what can I say, after all, TARTLET, looks like a coffin, truly. If you were going to build a coffin that is what it would look like.
Despite the not exactly elegant look of this boat to be, it should serve very well it's task, if it's predecessor's utility can be used as an indication. TARTLET is a great boat for the pond. This boat is to be light and easily portaged, just like TARTLET, but fuller and more seaworthy for use on the river, and capable of carrying a passenger.
I found a forum on the use of Luan plywood for boat building. The gang on the WoodenBoatForum didn't think Luan of much use in boatbuilding, or most of them did. There were one of two who realize it's limitations and use it anyway. So, I'm not alone in this attitude.
I found a forum on the use of Luan plywood for boat building. The gang on the WoodenBoatForum didn't think Luan of much use in boatbuilding, or most of them did. There were one of two who realize it's limitations and use it anyway. So, I'm not alone in this attitude.
It's been a few seasons now and those boats all seem to be holding up well. They are treated pretty well, being stored in the barn and dry sailed. I'm not timid with them though. A few days ago I rowed the pram full tilt, right onto a log that was just below the surface and covered in barnacles. The scraping sound along the bottom was a bit sickening, but late when I looked at the bottom the fiberglass armor (3oz. clothe) was barely scratched, in fact I had to look twice to find it.
Monday, November 16, 2015
A short sail
After having such a lovely time in the morning rowing the pram around the pond, and getting inspiration from the amazingly pleasant weather, I decided that I needed to take the skiff out to the lake and reacquaint myself with her.
Sliding her into the back of the truck, I was reminded of how handy this boat is. I drove to the closest of the lakes and launched there. The breeze was up so I prepped the sailing rig.
We sailed the down the Western shore of the lake, the wind was out of the south. A few little gusts kept me paying attention, especially as the water is cold again, and, there was nobody else on the lake, or it's shores. When I reached the north end of the lake, where the sand beach is, I changed heading, gybing easily with the sprit rig and sailed across the wind skirting the beach along the entire north end to the eastern side where the dam is. I beached the boat, dropped the sailing rig and rowed up the eastern shore.
On the southern end of the lake there are two large coves, or bays and I rowed up into the western bay and set the sailing rig back up so I could finish my circumnavigation with a sail back up the western shore to the launch site.
After hauling the boat from the water I spotted a set of antlers and the head of a deer swimming across the bay to get to the land on the other side. He didn't need oars, but he could have easily set sails on that rack. It was great to see him come out of the water and shake off before hopping right into the woods.
It was a nice way to end my sail.
Sailing along the sand beach was great fun and had such a different quality than sailing the rest of the lake. The beach was the lee shore today and the waves washed up on it making a sound and sight as if it were a much bigger bit of water I was upon. Sailing along, with the bottom insight, sloping and sandy and the beach moving by quickly, was a bit exciting.
I have come to realize how much more pleasant it is to sail this boat with a minimum of complications. The lovely rudder I built for it is not an improvement over using the oars as steering oars, each perched in it's after most oarlock. It easy to switch between the two, or to just start using them both to row. I still miss the ease at which the boat moved in light airs with the larger sail, but I do enjoy being able to sail in stronger wind.
I did not try to sail to windward at all, and being of the mind to row to wind kept me from worrying over a thing that this boat does not do well.
It was a very lovely day, a very "boaty" day and all in the middle of November to add.
While rowing the skiff I found that I should probably take the time to make a new middle thwart, just a bit wider to accommodate my big fat backside. I made the thwarts the way I did, loose fitting so that they could be adjusted until the optimum position could be found, and so that the could be easily removed for sailing or lying on the floors. This has all worked but I do sometimes wish that they were fastened tight so that there was one less thing to fuss over. The middle thwart, the rowing thwart, needs to be about 6-10 inches farther foreward than I originally thought. This would also have the affect of moving the bow down a touch, which would be a positive improvement.
I have decided that one of the things I don't like about this design is that the bow sits proud of the water. This does certainly cause it to pound into the waves and it also gives much more area for the wind to get hold of her. Instead of a sharp fine entry to the water she has a wide bottom that does help her to plane up over the water and makes her more maneuverable, but at the same time, takes away her ability to track.
In looking at the GOAT ISLAND SKIFF, which is a well reported sailing skiff, I think it has less rocker, although the stem doesn't quite make it down to the water, it exposes much less of the flat bottom to the oncoming water.
I do realize that by putting the sailing rig on this boat I was trying to get something out of it that it was not intended to do. That being said, I have had some success getting her to sail. She did better in lighter airs with the bigger sail, obviously, but she also seemed to go to weather a tiny bit better with that larger sail, probably due to the affect of the wind on the hull being so much less able to cause leeway. But off wind and across the wind and in stronger wind, the current sail is much more comfortable to use. I think it could be a bit longer at the foot, though the sheet lead would quickly become an issue, but it needs no more height on such a narrow beamed boat.
Although I do want to build a boat specifically for sailing and it may not be much different in form from this skiff (MAYBE THE GOAT ISLAND SKIFF) I may still get the centerboard drunk installed and build a taller mast.
It was good to be out in her again. It had been a while. It was truly wonderful to have gotten to sail her.
The most pleasing sound of the day was when I heard the first bubble of the water along her hull as her sail started to pull and she began to make way.
Sliding her into the back of the truck, I was reminded of how handy this boat is. I drove to the closest of the lakes and launched there. The breeze was up so I prepped the sailing rig.
| Lake sailing. This is the original cut of the sail that is larger than the current sail. The sprit is shorter now too. |
On the southern end of the lake there are two large coves, or bays and I rowed up into the western bay and set the sailing rig back up so I could finish my circumnavigation with a sail back up the western shore to the launch site.
After hauling the boat from the water I spotted a set of antlers and the head of a deer swimming across the bay to get to the land on the other side. He didn't need oars, but he could have easily set sails on that rack. It was great to see him come out of the water and shake off before hopping right into the woods.
It was a nice way to end my sail.
Sailing along the sand beach was great fun and had such a different quality than sailing the rest of the lake. The beach was the lee shore today and the waves washed up on it making a sound and sight as if it were a much bigger bit of water I was upon. Sailing along, with the bottom insight, sloping and sandy and the beach moving by quickly, was a bit exciting.
I have come to realize how much more pleasant it is to sail this boat with a minimum of complications. The lovely rudder I built for it is not an improvement over using the oars as steering oars, each perched in it's after most oarlock. It easy to switch between the two, or to just start using them both to row. I still miss the ease at which the boat moved in light airs with the larger sail, but I do enjoy being able to sail in stronger wind.
I did not try to sail to windward at all, and being of the mind to row to wind kept me from worrying over a thing that this boat does not do well.
It was a very lovely day, a very "boaty" day and all in the middle of November to add.
While rowing the skiff I found that I should probably take the time to make a new middle thwart, just a bit wider to accommodate my big fat backside. I made the thwarts the way I did, loose fitting so that they could be adjusted until the optimum position could be found, and so that the could be easily removed for sailing or lying on the floors. This has all worked but I do sometimes wish that they were fastened tight so that there was one less thing to fuss over. The middle thwart, the rowing thwart, needs to be about 6-10 inches farther foreward than I originally thought. This would also have the affect of moving the bow down a touch, which would be a positive improvement.
I have decided that one of the things I don't like about this design is that the bow sits proud of the water. This does certainly cause it to pound into the waves and it also gives much more area for the wind to get hold of her. Instead of a sharp fine entry to the water she has a wide bottom that does help her to plane up over the water and makes her more maneuverable, but at the same time, takes away her ability to track.
In looking at the GOAT ISLAND SKIFF, which is a well reported sailing skiff, I think it has less rocker, although the stem doesn't quite make it down to the water, it exposes much less of the flat bottom to the oncoming water.
I do realize that by putting the sailing rig on this boat I was trying to get something out of it that it was not intended to do. That being said, I have had some success getting her to sail. She did better in lighter airs with the bigger sail, obviously, but she also seemed to go to weather a tiny bit better with that larger sail, probably due to the affect of the wind on the hull being so much less able to cause leeway. But off wind and across the wind and in stronger wind, the current sail is much more comfortable to use. I think it could be a bit longer at the foot, though the sheet lead would quickly become an issue, but it needs no more height on such a narrow beamed boat.
Although I do want to build a boat specifically for sailing and it may not be much different in form from this skiff (MAYBE THE GOAT ISLAND SKIFF) I may still get the centerboard drunk installed and build a taller mast.
It was good to be out in her again. It had been a while. It was truly wonderful to have gotten to sail her.
The most pleasing sound of the day was when I heard the first bubble of the water along her hull as her sail started to pull and she began to make way.
Thursday, July 16, 2015
Skiffing it again
So now that I have one less boat to focus on, I not only feel a bit relieved, but also a bit invigorated to use the boats I have. The Bristol is still not an option for sailing, but I can continue working on her interior. I love being in her cabin so doing this work is a pleasure.
The only other sailing boat I have is the skiff. The reduction of the sail area was a good thing. The spars are smaller and easier to deal with, and the boat can be out in stronger wind. On the negative side, the new sail plan seems to have moved the center of effort forward enough so that she really doesn't sail to windward. Previously I was able to move myself forward and get the resistance underwater forward so she would just make to windward. I was able to get away without a foil (daggerboard, swing keel or lee board), but now the sails center of effort combined with the reduced area, seem to mean that I can't get the underbody center of effort far enough forward and there is not enough drive from the sail to get her to overcome making leeway. Or so I am assessing the situation.
I have 2 possibilities, I believe, for remedy. 1) build a trunk and dagger board and install it 2) add a mizzen sail.
The daggerboard option is pretty obvious, but there are drawbacks to it. First is that the keel on the boat is only 1-1/2 inches wide so the trunk would have to be constructed in a way to compensate for the loss of keel structure. I have an idea how this could be done, but it does mean cutting a hole in the bottom of the skiff. It also means loosing the space that right now is pretty comfortable, and this boat has minimal beam so loosing any space is not the most wonderful thing.
The idea for adding a mizzen is that not only would it shift the center of effort aft, where there is more underbody, but it would add sail area, that was lost, but down low, where it wouldn't cause as much heal in a skinny boat. I also think that a mizzen might make the boat capable of steering herself, or at least using the trim of the mizzen to balance her out. On the negative side the mizzen would be one more spar to deal with, two actually counting the boom or yard and it would mean retrofitting a mast step in the after deck. It would do nothing to improve the resistance to leeway for the underbody, but I think I might be able to gain back the ability to sail just to windward.
A mizzen would be a sharpie sprit sail, with a sprit yard that is parallel to the waterline, and a sheet lead to the transom. A standard boom and right angle at the foot and luff would also work. The mizzen mast could also give a better lead for the mainsheet. Bonus.
Well, suddenly it's a lot of sail area. The thing about adding the mizzen is that it can easily be not used if it proves to be a bad choice, and with out any real alterations to the hull. If it does work but the boat seems to really want the centerboard still, I can always add it later. The centerboard might also add some counter resistance to the sails.
The mizzen mast would make a cockpit tent rig very easy, just a line between the masts and a tarp. Sailing with jib and mizzen only might be an interesting option too.
This boat is really too skinning to be a good choice for sailing. But, it is what I have right now. I can still row it and sail it while building the mizzen and sewing the sail. I would really like a beamier boat for sailing but I would like to enjoy not having so many boats for a while. I think that this winter I may take on building a real sailing boat in the under 15 foot range. For now I will just try this and see how it goes.
It is all just messing about.
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| Skiff with Current rig. |
I have 2 possibilities, I believe, for remedy. 1) build a trunk and dagger board and install it 2) add a mizzen sail.
The daggerboard option is pretty obvious, but there are drawbacks to it. First is that the keel on the boat is only 1-1/2 inches wide so the trunk would have to be constructed in a way to compensate for the loss of keel structure. I have an idea how this could be done, but it does mean cutting a hole in the bottom of the skiff. It also means loosing the space that right now is pretty comfortable, and this boat has minimal beam so loosing any space is not the most wonderful thing.
The idea for adding a mizzen is that not only would it shift the center of effort aft, where there is more underbody, but it would add sail area, that was lost, but down low, where it wouldn't cause as much heal in a skinny boat. I also think that a mizzen might make the boat capable of steering herself, or at least using the trim of the mizzen to balance her out. On the negative side the mizzen would be one more spar to deal with, two actually counting the boom or yard and it would mean retrofitting a mast step in the after deck. It would do nothing to improve the resistance to leeway for the underbody, but I think I might be able to gain back the ability to sail just to windward.
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| mocked up ketch rig w/jib |
The mizzen mast would make a cockpit tent rig very easy, just a line between the masts and a tarp. Sailing with jib and mizzen only might be an interesting option too.
This boat is really too skinning to be a good choice for sailing. But, it is what I have right now. I can still row it and sail it while building the mizzen and sewing the sail. I would really like a beamier boat for sailing but I would like to enjoy not having so many boats for a while. I think that this winter I may take on building a real sailing boat in the under 15 foot range. For now I will just try this and see how it goes.
It is all just messing about.
Friday, February 6, 2015
Wednesday, February 4, 2015
LEMon Skiff
Almost done! I need to finish up the oars. I may also change the rowing thwart as I think the build would be easier with the middle station incorporated into the framing for the thwart.
Here is a less yellow pic.
| Lemon yellow picture, Lemon Skiff! the picture just came out this way, honest. |
| Not much rocker but really simple to build. Note the oars and the pad on the transom for an small motor. Thole pins over bought hardware makes this boat very cheap to build too. |
Wednesday, January 28, 2015
LEMon skiff
This is the model, so far, of the boat I have come up with for my brother to build in his garage. It is for use fishing in his local lakes, to be transported in the back of his pick up, propelled by oars only and to be easily built in his garage with simple tools, fasteners and adhesive.
| scale model of the LEMon skiff (My brothers initials are L.E.M.) |
| seems that no matter what the scale. wooden boats require lots of clamping! |
Saturday, December 27, 2014
Pizza Box boat design
My little brother wants to build a boat in his garage as project to keep him busy. I had considered getting him one of the books on instant boats but in looking thru them I thought it might be better and a bit more fun to just come up with a boat for him on my own.
I like getting the basic boat idea by thinking up dimensions and then building a model from cardboard. Pizza boxes work great for this and I seem to have a good supply of them, about one more each week.
His boat will probably be used for fishing on the local lakes where he lives and need to be transported in the back of his pickup truck. It will be rowed, though I wouldn't put it past him to apply a trawling motor to it at some point.
A simple hard chined skiff seems the best thing for a first time boat builder who is really a fisherman and a construction worker/tradesman, but not a finish carpenter. He has limited tools in his "shop" so I will keep it as simple as possible.
Very simple cuts, butt block scarfs, constant bevel on the chines, the bottom will be cut out last to the shape of the sides.
I don't think it will be a fantastic rower but it will probably have a good capacity and subtle lines. It has a small amount of rocker that is determined by the small amount of flare and the width of the transom against the width of the midsection. Two thwarts and maybe a small deck at the bow.
He'll have to build some oars as well unless he finds a set at a yard sale or something, but I'll include plans for those too.
I am tempted to build it myself just for the fun of it.
I will build a plywood model at the same scale and maybe send it to him.
messing about!
I like getting the basic boat idea by thinking up dimensions and then building a model from cardboard. Pizza boxes work great for this and I seem to have a good supply of them, about one more each week.
His boat will probably be used for fishing on the local lakes where he lives and need to be transported in the back of his pickup truck. It will be rowed, though I wouldn't put it past him to apply a trawling motor to it at some point.
A simple hard chined skiff seems the best thing for a first time boat builder who is really a fisherman and a construction worker/tradesman, but not a finish carpenter. He has limited tools in his "shop" so I will keep it as simple as possible.
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| The pizza box skiff! 11-6" LOA, 4' beam, 16" depth amidships, draft about 3" With 3 sheets of 1/4 inch plywood plus solid wood for frames and stem, skeg, skids about 100 pounds I'd guess. |
I don't think it will be a fantastic rower but it will probably have a good capacity and subtle lines. It has a small amount of rocker that is determined by the small amount of flare and the width of the transom against the width of the midsection. Two thwarts and maybe a small deck at the bow.
He'll have to build some oars as well unless he finds a set at a yard sale or something, but I'll include plans for those too.
I am tempted to build it myself just for the fun of it.
I will build a plywood model at the same scale and maybe send it to him.
messing about!
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